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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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fear

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon strickler join me as i

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examine

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unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations and remarkable realities

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imagine this next hour

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as a voyage of discovery to strange

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore unexplained

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live on beyond explanation i'm your host

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lon strickler coming to you from the

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howard fields of gettysburg pennsylvania

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now uh before i introduce tonight's

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guest

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bfro and fans of monsters 40 research

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team member carter bouchard

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will present a bigfoot report that he

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phantom and monsters sasquatch report

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number one

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on the 7th of june in 2013 a friend of

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mine and i decided to visit the monkey

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mountain nature reserve in green valley

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missouri

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as she believed we might catch the sight

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of a sasquatch since there had been

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documented sightings in that area and

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she knew that i was interested in the

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legend as we traveled down our demise

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area we were startled when a large

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crossed the road less than 100 feet in

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my friend stopped the car and we watched

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across the road from north

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to south it appeared it had come from a

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it was covered in dark hair and very

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very muscular

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the back was arched and its head was

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back was considerably shorter than it

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it seemed to just glide across the road

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which i thought was a strange thing

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since it was very large i'm guessing it

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weighed at least 500 pounds or more

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i reached for my camera which was in my

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lap but the creature had already

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the parking lot where i told her

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please go back so we can look for prince

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sasquatch and she told me it must have

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seeing a sasquatch in that particular

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area than a newfoundland it was then

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quiet about what we had seen and that i

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which obviously i didn't do i know what

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conversation i had with the witness

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i did speak to her for nearly two hours

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i'm quite familiar with this location

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they are 30 minutes from my home and

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after her initial encounter she became

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the girlfriend told her they should

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maybe go to monkey mountain because i

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during our conversation they were headed

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very muscular and she could see the

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musculature rippling as it moved

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so we appreciate that so tonight

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investigator and author dave spanks to

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now dave has been researching and

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work as a federal law enforcement

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so dave thanks for coming on the show

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hey man thanks for having me as usual

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appreciate it we hadn't talked back for

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where he's interviewing various folks

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so that's what we're doing and uh we got

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our first documentary film that's being

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put together right now and it's a

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it's called malefice and it's a it's an

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investigation that me and my partner

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you know guy i work with a lot too sean

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austin who was featured on ghost loop

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and the demon files with ralph sarchie

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will the short long and short of it is

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we did an investigation

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five years ago at this place you know

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routine investigation one of the

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commercial

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spots and lo and behold the place we

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were staying in across the street

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turned out to have some really really

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bad negative activity and then we found

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out some history about the property and

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lo and behold basically it has been

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following sean for the last five years

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and we

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actually picked this thing up on at

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other locations that we've been at over

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the last five years

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and it's got to the point where it's

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affecting his life

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negatively so uh we got with his mentor

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ralph sarchie ralph sartre performed a

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minor right on him

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and uh we went back and uh pretty much

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did a full-blown exorcism because he is

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a demonologist trained by ralph sargie

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now you know he's been training under

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him for several years

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and uh we went back and filmed it all

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and got some crazy just

321
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crazy stuff um and we're excited to

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share that with everybody you know on

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the new

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scare network tv so it's it's exciting

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stuff and it's one of those

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you know it's it's kind of like we talk

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about you know we've talked about it i

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think before

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one where sometimes when you're

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investigating these hauntings you never

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know what's going to happen

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and you know you know they can be quite

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literally dangerous at some points and

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that's pretty much what we got into on

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this one and it affected him

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very negatively you know over this last

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five years and it's

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come through at other locations since

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that time when we've been investigating

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the same voice same person

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well i wouldn't call it a person i'd

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call it a negative entity of some sort

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so

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um you know and then uh another exciting

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uh

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project i have going was with you know

347
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our good friend david weatherly you've

348
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had him on your show many times

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uh it's a it's a documentary on a

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location

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i can't spill the beans uh yet but that

352
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no one's ever done

353
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very historical it has to do with uh

354
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outlaws in the fbi that's all i'll tell

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you about it

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that project is all done um and it'll be

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coming out real soon too so uh got some

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phenomenal evidence there too and we

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filmed that one two years ago and it's

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finally done you know

361
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a lot of times these things take a lot

362
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of time to get put together the right

363
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way

364
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so you know what it is

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yeah i understand completely got some

366
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books coming out you know i'm continuing

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my real west virginia haunted series

368
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i'll have books two and three out of

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that this year

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got a brand new bigfoot book coming out

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uh

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coming out so

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uh probably have three to four books out

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this year alone

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because with this last year no

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conferences man i had all kind of time

377
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to finish up projects so

378
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yeah sounds like it yeah yeah i

379
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understand what you're saying about

380
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you know doing an investigation and

381
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something negative comes in the picture

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and

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occasionally somebody will get an

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attachment and it'll follow around

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and uh yeah i've seen it i mean you know

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it does happen

387
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so that's unfortunate but if it's taken

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care of i guess it's it's pretty good

389
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you might have got some pretty good

390
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video out there good care of it that's

391
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the thing you know you never know

392
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until later on down the road so yeah

393
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so um you were involved

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with and you know i had never talked to

395
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you about this though

396
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it happened over two years ago was the

397
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wills weep investigation

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why don't you talk us talk to us a bit

399
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about that

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and the location some of the history

401
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behind it because uh

402
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you know i can't i can't read and look

403
00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:01,680
at everything and i missed this one

404
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completely

405
00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:05,440
well willow's weave is just one of those

406
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things um you know you know how we hear

407
00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:09,600
through the paranormal grapevine i call

408
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it about these haunted locations oh man

409
00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:14,000
you got to go here we went there and we

410
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we got this that and the other so i

411
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heard about the house

412
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i think i went back the first time i was

413
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there was probably 2014.

414
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i heard about it i had saw an

415
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investigation the foreman brothers did

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there

417
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uh and then i you know i re i knew those

418
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guys so i talked to them about and they

419
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said man it was

420
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to them according to them it was off the

421
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chain and they had some really profound

422
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experiences

423
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and they did capture some phenomenal a

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couple of pictures and stuff that

425
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that would blow you away so of course

426
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through the grapevine i ended up going

427
00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:46,000
there and investigating it and

428
00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:47,600
first time i was there has a couple of

429
00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:50,800
real really weird things happen like

430
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i was standing there and something hit

431
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underneath the floor really hard

432
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so hard in fact that it almost like

433
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lifted me up a little bit it was just

434
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loud

435
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bang and then this burst of frigid cold

436
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air went right through me and it felt

437
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like it came from

438
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under the house up through me is really

439
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bizarre

440
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uh and then the standard the standard

441
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battery drain happened numerous pieces

442
00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:12,480
of equipment going off

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um disembodied voices evps had pretty

444
00:15:20,389 --> 00:15:17,760
much the whole gambit besides

445
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barring any kind of apparition uh

446
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captures or anything like that

447
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so i said man i gotta and i had a

448
00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:25,519
limited time the first time i went there

449
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so i came back again

450
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and then it was about the same you know

451
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and it got a little and then i started

452
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seeing uh

453
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the second time i was there i saw some

454
00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:34,800
weird shadow play uh

455
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captured some really crazy light

456
00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:39,440
anomalies on on the full spectrum camera

457
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and so on and so forth then as the years

458
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went by

459
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i kind of went back several more times

460
00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:46,320
and you know ran the whole gamut

461
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start talking to all kinds of other

462
00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:49,519
investigators

463
00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:51,519
well it's been a while since i've been

464
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:52,639
there and

465
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back in 2007 i had become friends with

466
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the owner then her name was brenda

467
00:16:01,829 --> 00:16:00,160
by that time and she reached out to me

468
00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,839
one day out of the clear blue and said

469
00:16:04,949 --> 00:16:03,440
hey dave um

470
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:04,959
me and my husband are done with this

471
00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:07,279
house and

472
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:08,800
we you know we feel that it's trying to

473
00:16:14,069 --> 00:16:12,399
kill us multiple times do you want it

474
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:14,079
and i was kind of taken back while i was

475
00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:15,279
like what do you mean do i want she goes

476
00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:16,079
well

477
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:17,839
i only trust you and one other person

478
00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:19,360
another person i already talked to said

479
00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:20,880
they can't do it they're just not in a

480
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:22,639
position to do it and i want to sell it

481
00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:24,160
to you if you want

482
00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:25,440
and i said i don't know brenda i mean

483
00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:27,839
that place is pretty negative you know

484
00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:29,440
let me think about it so i took about

485
00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:32,079
three or four days and i said well

486
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:33,519
you know what better chance as an

487
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:36,000
investigator would i have to own my own

488
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:38,000
paranormal laboratory so to speak you

489
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,040
know so

490
00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:41,440
we can let other investigators in we can

491
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,120
document things and that's what i ended

492
00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:45,040
up doing i bought it from her

493
00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:46,639
and that's what i've been doing it with

494
00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:49,360
it since and some really bizarre things

495
00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:50,399
that happened

496
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,959
at this property to even modern day

497
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:54,720
people you know investigators i had this

498
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:56,160
one woman her name was michelle

499
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,680
fitzpatrick you don't know if you guys

500
00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,279
know who she is

501
00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:01,279
but she was prior law enforcement pretty

502
00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:02,800
well known in the paranormal not

503
00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:04,480
great big known but a lot of people knew

504
00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:06,480
who she was well she had

505
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,559
a totally different take on this house

506
00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:10,000
than anyone i talked to

507
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:12,880
plus what i've experienced there and she

508
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,319
was talking to me about

509
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:15,919
you know she felt that there was

510
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,520
something interdimensional going on

511
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:19,439
there was a big portal and there's all

512
00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:21,839
kinds of stuff going in and out right

513
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:24,880
and i said well you know uh i had called

514
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:25,280
her

515
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,880
you know because uh she reached out to

516
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,400
me through a mutual mutual

517
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:31,120
friend barry gaunt and she said i want

518
00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:32,480
to talk to you about the house that you

519
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:34,640
since you own it now so

520
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,679
i called her up and um we got the

521
00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:38,799
talking and she said

522
00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:40,720
and i said well hey listen i want to

523
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:42,720
talk to you more but i got i'm leaving

524
00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,600
to an event

525
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:45,280
this week and i'm leaving tomorrow

526
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:46,960
matter of fact and

527
00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:48,960
she said good because she had a whole

528
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,640
bunch of things that she her evidence

529
00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:52,480
that she wanted to give to me

530
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:55,120
and uh she said we'll meet up you know

531
00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,640
on the phone we'll get i'll get back in

532
00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:58,080
touch with you next week when you get

533
00:18:04,150 --> 00:17:59,600
back i said okay

534
00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:04,160
so tuesday came the next week and i

535
00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:05,600
didn't hear back from her so i waited a

536
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:07,120
couple days and i called her

537
00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:10,400
and no answer you know no answer

538
00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:13,039
and uh then i jumped on our facebook

539
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,160
page because i was going to send her a

540
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,559
message and all i saw on her facebook

541
00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:18,400
page was all these oh my god i can't

542
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,360
believe it

543
00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:21,760
uh rest in peace michelle and all this

544
00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:23,360
crazy stuff

545
00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,559
and found out she had died at um

546
00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:28,240
two o'clock in the morning the night

547
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:29,679
before i was supposed to get in touch

548
00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:30,559
with her

549
00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:32,640
her daughter found her deceased in her

550
00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:34,080
house and

551
00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,559
with no apparent it's still nobody knows

552
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:38,559
why she died how she died like they're

553
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:39,200
not

554
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:44,080
only medical problems i knew she had

555
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,440
that i knew because she had

556
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,280
injured back from law enforcement stuff

557
00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,880
and that's the only thing we know

558
00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,559
and nobody can find out any difference

559
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:52,720
so you know coincidental maybe

560
00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:53,679
coincidental yes

561
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:56,559
who knows but it's kind of just fishy

562
00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:58,559
out of nowhere i got talking to her and

563
00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:59,679
then boom

564
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:01,360
you know the day before i'm supposed to

565
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:02,960
talk to her again

566
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,400
she's no longer with us um so

567
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:08,559
you know that's just one crazy thing and

568
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,000
i just it was so bizarre

569
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,400
because she had a totally different

570
00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:14,000
outlook on this house than any other

571
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,919
investigator and

572
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:17,760
maybe she was hitting on something that

573
00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:20,000
nobody else did and it was

574
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:21,840
maybe hitting the nail on the head so to

575
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:24,080
speak and whatever this negative entity

576
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:25,280
that's in that house

577
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:27,120
decided no you're not going to tell that

578
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:28,559
i don't know you know you just never

579
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:29,520
know but

580
00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:33,120
anyway i ended up buying the house um

581
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,600
and started letting people go in you

582
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:37,039
know brenda was doing the same thing

583
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:38,640
because she wanted answers too

584
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:41,840
the house was built in 1890 i found out

585
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:44,720
just not too long ago by a 32nd degree

586
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:45,360
mason

587
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:47,120
that the house was definitely built by

588
00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:49,760
the mason's formation

589
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,919
i knew there was some masonic symbology

590
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:53,679
in this house but i didn't know to the

591
00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:54,720
extent

592
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,880
so and he took pictures of it when he

593
00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:58,960
was in with his group and told me all

594
00:20:02,070 --> 00:19:59,600
about it

595
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:02,080
he said well he said you see that you

596
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,120
know there's

597
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,600
triangles above every door and mind you

598
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:07,120
this house is built in the shape of a

599
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:08,640
cross which is really bizarre

600
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:11,200
okay but if you think about the templar

601
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:11,679
knights

602
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,840
that was one of their insignia was you

603
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:15,360
know the templar cross

604
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:18,159
even though it had double crosses it had

605
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:18,960
double

606
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:22,159
lines across the normal cross but every

607
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:22,960
it had four

608
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:26,240
entrances and exits okay above each

609
00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,320
entrance and exit of this house was a

610
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:30,400
was a triangle built into the structure

611
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:30,880
which is

612
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:34,960
really bizarre um then

613
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:37,679
on every doorway there are the temples

614
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:38,640
of solomon

615
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:41,600
uh carved into the you know the trim

616
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:41,919
with

617
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,559
the and it's turned sideways so a

618
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,640
non-masonic member would not really

619
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:49,120
recognize it um he sent me the

620
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:50,880
literature on it and showed me exactly

621
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:51,760
what it was

622
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:54,080
it matched up perfectly and i was like

623
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,360
whoa okay

624
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,360
and there's some other things with mason

625
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:59,280
masons in that in that house too

626
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:01,120
he was looking up information trying to

627
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:03,039
find out if it was either a secret

628
00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:03,679
temple

629
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:08,159
back because it was built in 1890 you

630
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:08,880
know

631
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:11,280
but can't find anything on it even

632
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,880
though there's definitely masonic

633
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,840
symbology

634
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:15,520
could've been just he was a mason and he

635
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,960
wanted that in his house could have been

636
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:18,480
as simple as that

637
00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:20,960
so if you picture a cross in your mind

638
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:21,919
here's the top

639
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:24,480
goes like this comes down right in every

640
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:25,039
corner

641
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,559
there was a doorway in the initial

642
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:28,559
building of the structure above each one

643
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:30,159
of those doors there's a three-sided you

644
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:30,559
know

645
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:32,799
triangle all pointing to the middle of

646
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,840
the cross

647
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,520
now another bizarre feature of this

648
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:36,960
house is underneath

649
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:40,880
it has a a freaking fire pit dug

650
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:43,200
in the crawl space which i still can't

651
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,880
wrap my mind around why in the hell

652
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,480
somebody would build a crawl space under

653
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:48,559
the house or a fire pit

654
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:52,000
um the fire pit has um granite rock

655
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,280
around it just like you see at a

656
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:55,280
campfire and in that pit there are still

657
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:57,200
ashes to this day

658
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,720
another strange aspect to the house was

659
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:02,880
um after brenda bought it he bought it

660
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,880
for her son to get started in life

661
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,320
and help him out you know it was a real

662
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,480
cheap uh and that was because the last

663
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,760
person that lived in the house

664
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:11,280
killed himself he shot himself in the

665
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,960
head but

666
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,400
as they were doing construction trying

667
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,039
to get this house ready for her son

668
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,120
she reported and the workers reported

669
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:22,080
that tools would fly across the room

670
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,679
they would turn on even some of them

671
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:25,120
sometimes when they weren't plugged in

672
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,120
you know your typical paranormal type of

673
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,440
activity well the first time she walked

674
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,200
into the house the son that was selling

675
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:33,200
it to her of the last man that died in

676
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:33,919
the house

677
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:36,080
wouldn't go in and she didn't know why

678
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:38,400
well they walked in looked around

679
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:41,200
and she said uh i think it was a piece

680
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,600
of

681
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,000
metal pipe or wood flew from the other

682
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,840
wall and smacked her son right ahead and

683
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,280
cut him on the forehead right off the

684
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,799
get-go the first time they ever walked

685
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:50,320
into it

686
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,000
but um so there's were after that

687
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,640
time they had to uh who up they had a a

688
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,400
new laminate floor over the original

689
00:23:01,270 --> 00:23:00,480
floor from 1890 the original floor's

690
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,280
still in there but

691
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,360
someone had put a new floor in it well

692
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:05,280
it was all hooved up from moisture so

693
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:06,080
they

694
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:10,240
one corner of

695
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,440
one room they found a weird pamphlet

696
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:14,960
that says

697
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,679
it's from the church of god okay on the

698
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,360
front of this pamphlet

699
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:21,440
it's got an upside down pentagram on

700
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,559
fire and it says

701
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,520
is the spirit world real now when you

702
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:27,520
open this pamphlet up

703
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:30,320
it talks about necromancy how to summon

704
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:31,440
demons

705
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,840
and all this crazy stuff i don't know

706
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,559
about you

707
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:36,640
guys but me any christian organization

708
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,400
i've ever heard of would never publish a

709
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:40,159
pamphlet talking about how to do those

710
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:41,600
types of things

711
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:44,720
and all that and all that sort of thing

712
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,880
uh and i looked it up and the book was

713
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,559
published or the pamphlet was published

714
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,400
in 1985

715
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,320
and it's still available today you can

716
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,679
get it so what it is

717
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:55,600
is the people that are running this are

718
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,760
masquerading as a christian organization

719
00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:59,279
and it's more or less a cult

720
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,799
okay um so i've heard i've heard of the

721
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,400
church of god before

722
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:06,559
and it is a cult but this ain't the real

723
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,840
church of god let me tell you

724
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,679
yeah there are a little different yeah

725
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,840
it's some weird sect of it that's into

726
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,760
some weird

727
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:16,000
so you know the original owner died in

728
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,320
the house um he was also a pedophile

729
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,000
he was charged in court i've got the

730
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,400
paperwork said he was previously married

731
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:24,000
and his new wife was previously married

732
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,360
they both had children's from

733
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:27,360
children from their first marriages then

734
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,559
when they got married they had more

735
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,640
children he actually was molesting

736
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:33,039
one of his step-daughters he got caught

737
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,080
uh they

738
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,760
they charged him in court i've got the

739
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:38,159
paperwork so he's a real piece of work

740
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:38,640
right

741
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:41,679
so as time went on brenda was fixing up

742
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:42,880
this house trying they were trying to

743
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,559
fix it up so she had a local guy

744
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,640
doing maintenance fixing up things

745
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,760
painting

746
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,360
and she sent him under the house one day

747
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,279
to check the pipes so

748
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,640
and i'm talking i've been under this

749
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,480
house man i can barely squeeze my big

750
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,559
butt down in there and once once you get

751
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:58,000
down in the crawl hole

752
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:59,760
then it opens up to where you can kind

753
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,279
of crawl on you almost have to belly

754
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,679
crawl it's really low

755
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,520
and he gets under there to check the

756
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:07,200
pipes when he has to crawl over to the

757
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,240
side of the house

758
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:10,159
and he said there was these weird mounds

759
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,600
of dirt i've actually interviewed this

760
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,279
man and he won't do it on camera because

761
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,279
it scared him so bad

762
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,600
so he crawls under there and he has to

763
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,360
push the mounds of dirt out of his way

764
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:21,279
to get to the pipes

765
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,320
so as he's doing this a bone pops out

766
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:27,520
of one of the dirt he grabs it starts

767
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,000
looking at

768
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:30,400
it and then he claimed that something

769
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,360
unseen

770
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:33,120
physically attacked him to the point

771
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:34,480
where he couldn't move

772
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:37,360
and it was in a sexual manner mind you

773
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,840
uh

774
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,520
and it was he said he fought with

775
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:40,960
everything he could just to get out of

776
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,000
he finally got free

777
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:44,400
of whatever this thing was had to bone

778
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,440
with him

779
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:46,880
took it to brenda and said i'm never

780
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:49,120
going under that f in the house again

781
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,559
and she didn't know what to do so she

782
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,480
took the bone to the local country doc

783
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,960
down the road there he looked at he said

784
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,039
yes it's definitely a child's arm bone

785
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,559
but it looks really old so

786
00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,000
we don't know at this point if it's

787
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:02,000
native american or someone was murdered

788
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,440
and buried under the house

789
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:05,600
was this original owner did he kill one

790
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:06,799
of his kids

791
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,240
who knows so that happened

792
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,320
another occasion when he was painting

793
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:13,760
the outside with brenda

794
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:16,720
the owner the house is really tall and

795
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,520
it only has

796
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,360
one upstairs window and the whole

797
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,799
upstairs is blocked off

798
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:23,360
it's another really strange feature in

799
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:24,080
the original

800
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,360
home plans there's supposed to be a

801
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,120
staircase there is no staircase you

802
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,960
can't find it it's buried in the wall or

803
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:30,720
it was never put in or it was taken out

804
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,520
and boarded up

805
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,840
now you can make up your own mind

806
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:35,200
whatever you want to do with that

807
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:38,320
scenario right the only way to get into

808
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:40,159
the upstairs part of the house there's

809
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,679
one outside window and you have to pull

810
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,360
the entire window pane out

811
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:45,600
crawl up in there so they were painting

812
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,559
up in there

813
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,120
outside and they had to pull a truck up

814
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,960
and put a ladder in the bed of the truck

815
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,279
so they could reach that high

816
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:55,279
this poor guy the same maintenance guy

817
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:57,200
man he's up there

818
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:00,640
painting and he said he heard this old

819
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,760
woman's voice said

820
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,000
get that out i'm away from my house or

821
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,679
whatever and then the ladder

822
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,679
shoved off the thing and he went flying

823
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,279
like 20 feet in the air and landed on

824
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,039
his back on the ground

825
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,919
so he had that encounter there and

826
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,559
another encounter he had to

827
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,640
is that he was mowing he's mowing

828
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:20,000
everything for you know whatever he

829
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,159
could do to get some extra money

830
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:24,559
so he was mowing and brenda was in the

831
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,279
backyard

832
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:26,799
and she's one that told me the story and

833
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:29,039
i confirmed it through him

834
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:32,320
uh the mowing you know the mower was

835
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:33,440
going she's doing

836
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,880
cleaning up sticks in the backyard

837
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,640
whatever and the mower stopped and after

838
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,000
like 10 minutes she's like

839
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,080
that's weird so she goes to the front of

840
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,320
the house and there's this guy

841
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,080
that was working for her laying on the

842
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,640
front porch like this

843
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,880
going oh you know he was all out of it

844
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,159
and everything like what happened she

845
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,840
goes he said something threw me off the

846
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,440
lawnmower and i can't move well they

847
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,720
rushed him to the hospital he had a

848
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,720
broken vertebrae in his back where

849
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,480
he flew off the mower and we're talking

850
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,399
this ground is flatter than the

851
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,799
pancake man there's no reason he should

852
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,880
have flew off the lawnmower

853
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:07,039
uh another crazy story uh that happened

854
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,320
at this house

855
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,919
brenda's two of her friend two or three

856
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,080
of her three of her friends pulled up

857
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,919
that she knew and they they all rode

858
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,840
motorcycles and stuff you know and big

859
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,600
biker type dudes

860
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,200
and they were just bs and with her and

861
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:21,200
then he said one of the guys said

862
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,240
something to her about

863
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,679
you know i heard this they say this

864
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,600
house is haunted and all this and this

865
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,880
tree you don't want to mess with this

866
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:28,640
willow tree in the front

867
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,320
i don't believe in none of that crap he

868
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:32,080
ripped off a branch of the willow tree

869
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,679
threw it in a dash and they took off

870
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,880
went down the road

871
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,600
she gets a call an hour later the two

872
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,120
brothers that were in the front seat got

873
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:41,120
into a fist fight in the car while it

874
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,000
was driving

875
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:44,720
and they lost control that the car went

876
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:45,760
flipping off the road

877
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,399
into the graveyard where they last where

878
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:49,840
one of the people that died in the house

879
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,640
is buried

880
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,720
and they all got lifeline they all got

881
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:54,880
life flighted out

882
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,760
wow um that's another bizarre story i

883
00:29:02,950 --> 00:28:59,279
mean there's a ton of them one of the

884
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,960
spookiest stories that she told me was

885
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,640
okay so in the back of the house there's

886
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:06,720
a large metal building it's like 40 by

887
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:07,440
40

888
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,640
um metal building cement floor and she

889
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,159
used to be a professional pool player

890
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,440
she played against like

891
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:15,760
black widow on espn and all kinds of

892
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,470
and they would have family gatherings

893
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:22,240
there and everything and grill out and

894
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,039
stuff

895
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,120
because she owned the house next door to

896
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,640
this house too

897
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:28,480
so and she ended up marrying that guy

898
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:30,799
that lived there all these years

899
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,120
and they had some some kids over and

900
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,279
stuff that were members of the family

901
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,120
and her little niece was like three or

902
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,960
four years old and they saw her

903
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,799
standing outside the building waving and

904
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,559
looking up right

905
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,480
so they're they after a few minutes of

906
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,760
that they walk out there guys who are

907
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:47,039
you waving at honey and

908
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,480
that same window i'm telling you that

909
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:50,640
you got to pull out in the upstairs

910
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:52,000
she said that little girl up in the

911
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:54,080
window up there and

912
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:55,440
they're like there's no little girl up

913
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:56,720
there she goes yeah she's right there

914
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,600
she's right there

915
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,159
right nobody saw anything so after a few

916
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:01,679
minutes they're saying oh okay it's just

917
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,480
you know just his

918
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,880
child's imagination whatever a few

919
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:06,559
minutes go by and the little girl will

920
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:08,960
literally starts screaming bloody murder

921
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,640
and they run over like what's wrong

922
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,559
what's wrong she said that little girl

923
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:14,080
came down from the window and bit me on

924
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,600
my face

925
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,120
and they said sure enough in a few

926
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:19,120
minutes a human child bite mark showed

927
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,159
up right on her face

928
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,480
and they never been back since they left

929
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,080
never came back

930
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,559
and her and her husband her husband

931
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:28,000
reported that he saw

932
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,200
and he don't believe in none other

933
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:31,679
paranormal like he said later on

934
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:34,559
he saw an old man in a pair of uh

935
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,360
overalls

936
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,720
holding a little girl's hand and they

937
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:38,399
walk right through the wall there

938
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:40,000
there's been other people that have seen

939
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:41,440
the curtains open when no one's in the

940
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:42,640
house and looking out

941
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,720
you know people looking out of the house

942
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:46,320
and another little boy that was family

943
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,760
relation to brendan them

944
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,159
said he saw came running in the building

945
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:51,760
over there and said i just saw jesus

946
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:52,159
christ

947
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,120
and they're like what are you talking

948
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:55,520
about she said this man came out of the

949
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,320
house have

950
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,279
had a full beard you know gray long hair

951
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:01,919
and a white robe

952
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,399
so i don't know you know with that fire

953
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:06,240
pit scenario that's going on there i

954
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,440
don't know if people were practicing

955
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:09,120
practicing witchcraft there at some time

956
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:09,760
or whatever

957
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:12,960
you know um um also the man's

958
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,039
the man that shot himself in the head

959
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:17,279
his wife actually od

960
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,880
as well um several years before that but

961
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:22,640
the family has a big issue with that

962
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:24,880
because the doctor said she died at the

963
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,320
hospital well we all know

964
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:28,080
in most states you're not dead until the

965
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:29,679
doctor says you're dead at the hospital

966
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,399
technically you know but her husband

967
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:34,159
knew those people he lived there since

968
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,360
the 60s

969
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:37,200
and told me first hand that he was

970
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:38,640
friends with them and they he saw them

971
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,679
wheel her out

972
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,360
covered up they were not working on her

973
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:42,960
she died in the house

974
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,159
so um you know there's this um another

975
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,399
strange story there's a lot of years

976
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,480
between the for the owner the original

977
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,399
builder and his son living there

978
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:54,559
that are unaccounted for there's no

979
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:55,600
records

980
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:58,720
of who lived there um other than

981
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,640
i think the family had it and they were

982
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,320
renting it out to people and they just

983
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,480
did you know the county's records there

984
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:06,159
are a flipping mess let me tell you i've

985
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,679
been in that courthouse so many times

986
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,919
researching you can't find anything

987
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:11,279
because they they

988
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:12,799
use the town used to be called

989
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:15,039
springfield now it's called cayuga

990
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,720
and the records have been moved several

991
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:18,799
times there's a lot of stuff missing

992
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,320
but another spooky account that

993
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:24,559
uh the old woman that lived on the other

994
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,519
side of the house

995
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:27,760
was like 95 when brenda bought this

996
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:28,880
house old as

997
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,360
you know she was up there she told

998
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:33,120
brenda she couldn't remember what decade

999
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,840
it was like

1000
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:36,240
40s or 50 that this woman moved in she

1001
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,760
had a really weird nickname i can't

1002
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,960
remember

1003
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:41,760
her nickname was but she only went by

1004
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,080
one

1005
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,799
name she had an older teenage boy and

1006
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,320
she had a little girl that was four

1007
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:48,320
maybe five that the teenage boy was

1008
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:49,519
maybe 18 19

1009
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,279
20 years old they moved in there and

1010
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,039
they come to find out that the woman had

1011
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,720
been married three times

1012
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,559
and all of her husbands died

1013
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,480
mysteriously and she collected all the

1014
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,559
insurance money right

1015
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,399
well out of nowhere after they lived

1016
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,320
there a short time a year or two the

1017
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,840
little girl came up missing

1018
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:09,120
nobody knows what happened they did a

1019
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:11,360
big search could never find her

1020
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:14,880
and uh a short time later the young man

1021
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,519
was found hanging in the house too

1022
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,880
so you know that's here though i can't

1023
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,159
confirm it i don't got

1024
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,720
i have no records of that and the woman

1025
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,320
just disappeared and nobody knew what

1026
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,159
her nobody knew what her real name was

1027
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:29,760
because she went by a nickname and

1028
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:30,559
nobody knew

1029
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,919
you know who she was where she went and

1030
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,480
uh

1031
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:36,000
i'm thinking well maybe that little

1032
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:38,240
girl's arm bone that he found could be

1033
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,039
that little girl

1034
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,880
i don't know you know there's still a

1035
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,320
lot of work to be done at the house i

1036
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:44,240
need to get gpr under the house but

1037
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:45,120
here's the deal

1038
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,480
i'm gonna have to tear the whole floor

1039
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,720
up to do that to get it in there

1040
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:51,200
so you know there's a lot of stuff and

1041
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,000
i've had some good

1042
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:53,760
questions you know people are like man

1043
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,960
you got why didn't they get law

1044
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,720
enforcement in there i said well

1045
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:58,720
brenda told me the doctor that she took

1046
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,760
the bone to called

1047
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:02,159
local sheriff and said he said well the

1048
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,840
doc said it's very old just either get

1049
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:05,039
rid of it or put it back it's probably

1050
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:06,000
native american

1051
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,440
influence there there's huge native

1052
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,960
american battles with the french in that

1053
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:12,240
whole area

1054
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,040
um a lot of people died on both sides uh

1055
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:17,040
settlers you know were killed massacred

1056
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,560
and the whole nine yards

1057
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,240
there's two major rivers that come into

1058
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,839
that little town right there by the

1059
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:22,800
house

1060
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:26,079
huge aquifer

1061
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,919
and all the neighbors dig up native

1062
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:30,000
american pottery arrowheads you name it

1063
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,520
when they're digging their gardens

1064
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,679
so you've got and then right in front of

1065
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:35,040
the house

1066
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:37,040
you've we've all heard that the devil is

1067
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,480
selling this selling your soul to the

1068
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,560
devil at the crossroads story well guess

1069
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:42,000
what what's in front of the house a

1070
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:43,520
crossroads right in front

1071
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:46,159
exactly in front of the house so it's

1072
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:46,879
just got

1073
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:49,280
it's got so many factors that we look

1074
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:49,919
for for

1075
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,240
possible causes of paranormal activity i

1076
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:54,079
mean it was a no-brainer for me to just

1077
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,800
hey

1078
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,800
let's do this let's you know let's study

1079
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,320
it find out what see we can find out

1080
00:35:03,030 --> 00:34:59,920
what's going on here

1081
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,040
and um that's what i'm doing you know

1082
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:05,119
and there's a lot more to it you know

1083
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,480
the native the native americans the

1084
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:08,640
willow tree is very sacred to them

1085
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:11,280
the roots go right down in into the

1086
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:12,240
under the house

1087
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:14,000
so and that house is stained with blood

1088
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,599
let me tell you there's been

1089
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,599
you know i think there's been six deaths

1090
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:19,760
total in that house at least

1091
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,560
uh two two at least one by suicide the

1092
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:24,800
other one was probably accidental od

1093
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:27,119
whatever uh and then the original owners

1094
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:28,240
all died in the house

1095
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,280
him his wife and the son too and then

1096
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:33,839
we don't know about the kid hanging

1097
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,480
himself

1098
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,800
and or being hung and the little girl

1099
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,760
either

1100
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:40,000
now i got another interesting email

1101
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:41,680
about a year after i first bought the

1102
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,320
house

1103
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,320
from a man who said his grandma lived in

1104
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,480
the house back in the 60s

1105
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,320
and she was old school and this house

1106
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,480
didn't have a kitchen back in those days

1107
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,000
that was added into the house

1108
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:54,720
later they used to have a summer kitchen

1109
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,520
in the back

1110
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,800
a little building where they did all the

1111
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:59,200
cooking right and then they cooked on

1112
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,560
one of those old

1113
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:03,119
catherine stoves in the house right and

1114
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,000
this woman

1115
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,079
was old school she would after dinner

1116
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,839
you know she would do all the dishes set

1117
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,599
the plates and everything for breakfast

1118
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,119
the next day well

1119
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:13,359
she he said he remembered his grandma

1120
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,240
talking about

1121
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,920
she would come out almost every night

1122
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:17,280
after setting the table and the dishes

1123
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:17,680
would be

1124
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:21,359
scattered all over the floor excuse me

1125
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:21,920
and uh

1126
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,640
everything was in disarray and the

1127
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:26,079
rocking chair in the house used to rock

1128
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:27,839
by itself all the time

1129
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:30,560
so it's got paranormal activity reports

1130
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:30,960
going

1131
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:34,079
way back man you know so so this is an

1132
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:35,839
indiana what part of the state

1133
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:39,440
is this it's about 45 minutes

1134
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,640
west of indy okay

1135
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,599
right on the board toward illinois yeah

1136
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:47,599
right on the border illinois like 15

1137
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:48,480
minutes

1138
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,680
from the illinois border so also

1139
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:54,000
indiana indiana in general and yeah of

1140
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,119
course

1141
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:57,680
dave wrote that book and uh i have him

1142
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:00,079
coming on a couple weeks but

1143
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,280
indiana my god i mean it is amazing

1144
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,200
the paranormal activity in the cryptid

1145
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:08,000
activity in that

1146
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,680
well it is the crossroads state me and

1147
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:11,680
him we're talking about that you know

1148
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,119
um it's so me and him spent uh

1149
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,040
at least two and a half solid years of

1150
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,880
investigations in that statement

1151
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,040
and i have family ties to indiana too i

1152
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:23,040
have family that lives there so

1153
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,880
um i've been going there for quite a

1154
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,800
long time and

1155
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,040
you know it just so happens i ended up

1156
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,240
buying a place there

1157
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:32,800
just to study the paranormal but you

1158
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,359
know

1159
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:35,040
and there's so many other reports that

1160
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,720
go along with willow's weep um if you

1161
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:38,560
look on my youtube channel

1162
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,200
there's a i'll give you i've never seen

1163
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,800
a shadow figure like this long i've been

1164
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,240
doing this quite a long time and i've

1165
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,760
caught shadow figures but nothing like

1166
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,119
this and this was by pure

1167
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,520
happenstance i've been filming a

1168
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:51,280
documentary about the place with a

1169
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,000
friend who's

1170
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,079
who's running the scare network tv with

1171
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,320
me and we were up there just doing

1172
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:58,320
interviews on for a couple of days

1173
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:59,440
talking to me you know

1174
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,040
talking about what i just basically what

1175
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,640
we're talking about and interviewing

1176
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:04,160
some of the locals

1177
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,680
well we were done for the day and we

1178
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:07,280
were in the back building packing up all

1179
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,720
the gear and we got done

1180
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:10,880
and he's like oh crap i left the gopro

1181
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,720
in there well he had stuck a gopro

1182
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:15,599
up on top on the doors just for a extra

1183
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,119
angle right

1184
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,040
so thinking nothing of it he walks in

1185
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:20,880
there grabs a gopro throws in his bag

1186
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,680
and we're out of there

1187
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:24,000
a month later he calls me up freaking

1188
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,440
out and this is a guy that's not an

1189
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,119
investigator he's a film guy

1190
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:29,200
you know that's all he does he's like

1191
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:30,480
i'm never going in that

1192
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:32,240
effing house again i'm like what are you

1193
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,760
talking about he's like dude

1194
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,079
i just sent you i just emailed you the

1195
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,079
footage i can't believe what we caught

1196
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:39,680
on that gopro

1197
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,720
nobody's in the house you hear this

1198
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,240
shuffling noise

1199
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,480
dragging sound and then in the back

1200
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,920
corner of one of those little rooms that

1201
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,119
used to be a door that they

1202
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,000
add to these little rooms on full-blown

1203
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,160
shadow figure in the middle of the day

1204
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:56,160
walks across the room from head to toe

1205
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:58,839
it's semi-transparent but you can see

1206
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,520
everything and there's no way there was

1207
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,119
nobody outside around the house

1208
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,920
and even if it was if it was somebody

1209
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,440
that walked up to the window

1210
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,040
they would have been cut off at the legs

1211
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,599
down because the windows are about

1212
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,200
three and a half four feet high off the

1213
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,920
ground weird looking windows

1214
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:17,119
it wouldn't you would have seen them on

1215
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:18,960
camera as well so

1216
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,320
you can you can check it out on my

1217
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,079
youtube channel it's a short clip

1218
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:25,440
uh capture just go on my videos and

1219
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,640
scroll down about 20

1220
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:28,400
30 videos and you'll see it shadow man

1221
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:29,839
captured it's at the willow's wheat

1222
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:30,480
house

1223
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:33,040
and after that thing goes across

1224
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,079
something else comes

1225
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,720
out of the room behind it like it's a

1226
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:38,079
shadowy and then a white

1227
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:40,160
misty looking substance and there's all

1228
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:42,160
kind of shadow play going on

1229
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,359
and there's nothing there that could

1230
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:45,200
have caused it and noises unexplained

1231
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,760
noises

1232
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:48,240
inside the house is pretty phenomenal

1233
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:49,920
and that was by pure happiness

1234
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:52,960
through the middle of the day so well

1235
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:55,440
as you know these shadow figures they're

1236
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,240
only going to

1237
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,480
come into a place where there's a lot of

1238
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,920
energy and you know

1239
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,520
they they got to have feed off this

1240
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:03,040
stuff somehow

1241
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:04,720
so and i was going to ask you if you had

1242
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,079
a shadow shadow person activity because

1243
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,240
that stuff kind of seems to follow

1244
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,000
places like this where

1245
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,680
there's just a lot of unexplained

1246
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:15,839
activity and uh yeah that doesn't

1247
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:16,800
surprise me at

1248
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,000
all yeah it was trippy man i i still i'm

1249
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:21,760
blown away by that capture you know and

1250
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,400
then

1251
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,160
another weird bizarre thing brenda used

1252
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:25,680
to tell me about is when she first

1253
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,960
started letting paranormal people in

1254
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:28,079
there because she wanted answers they're

1255
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,359
trying to figure out what the hell is

1256
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:30,960
going on in this place

1257
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,680
she uh said there's a graveyard about

1258
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:35,680
maybe 150 yards

1259
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,880
caddy corner to the house she said time

1260
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:40,319
after time when someone would die and

1261
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,839
they'd bury him in there that the people

1262
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,200
that were investigating the house would

1263
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:45,040
get the names on their

1264
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,720
on their recorders and on the ghost

1265
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:48,720
boxes and stuff of the people that were

1266
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,750
and the way this house is built in the

1267
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:57,680
shape of a cross you okay you think

1268
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,160
about it

1269
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,480
at four entrances and exits these

1270
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:02,160
triangles are all pointing to the center

1271
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:03,520
of the house and directly under the

1272
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:04,480
center of the house you have this

1273
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:05,760
bizarre fire pit

1274
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:08,000
it's almost as if it was built to funnel

1275
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,839
energy into that thing

1276
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:12,240
and a lot of people said they you know

1277
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:13,599
i've had psychics going there

1278
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,960
metaphysical people

1279
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,560
regular investigators they all feel

1280
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:18,240
there's a doorway in the center of that

1281
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,760
house that's been open

1282
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,960
you know that's what it sounds like to

1283
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,720
me it sounds like there's a portal there

1284
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:23,839
some type

1285
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:26,319
a vortex a portal when you stand on this

1286
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,280
through that house

1287
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,040
some people get really dizzy they get

1288
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:31,119
disoriented you can really feel it

1289
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,960
i set a compass right there one time on

1290
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,160
the ground and it went

1291
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,400
cool and then stopped and went back the

1292
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,000
other way it was doing all kind of

1293
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,040
bizarre stuff and uh i mean and

1294
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:43,200
equipment goes crazy in that place

1295
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,400
battery drain like

1296
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:46,240
brand new batteries will drain out like

1297
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:47,760
you wouldn't believe in that place man

1298
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:48,000
it's

1299
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:54,160
one of the local shamans or elders come

1300
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:54,880
in there

1301
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:58,079
from the last tribe no not yet i've been

1302
00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:59,440
talking to a couple though

1303
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,079
and i think my plan for the house it's

1304
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,839
very negative and if you ever spend any

1305
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,040
time there you'll know

1306
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,200
you'll feel it man it's not a good place

1307
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:08,880
i don't even let people under 18 in the

1308
00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:09,280
place

1309
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,599
period no i don't blame you no because

1310
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,880
i'm scared i don't want nothing to

1311
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:13,760
happen to anybody

1312
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,839
anyway i keep it locked down for the

1313
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,359
most part every once in a while i'll

1314
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:19,119
open it up for investigations but

1315
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,720
because i'm trying to pay the taxes on

1316
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:22,960
the place and stuff you know what i mean

1317
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,599
so um but it needs a lot of work you

1318
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,520
know it's built in 1890 and

1319
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:29,200
it's so far away from me i think what

1320
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,640
i'm gonna end up doing is

1321
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,640
uh bringing in some i'm probably gonna

1322
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:34,240
bring in a catholic priest

1323
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,760
a minister a shaman and a light worker

1324
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:40,000
and really get down and try to close

1325
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,640
that shop up man and bless it and i may

1326
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,319
even tear the place down

1327
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:46,079
i mean that that's how strongly i feel

1328
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:47,839
how negative it is

1329
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:50,480
yeah you know it would be nice to get a

1330
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:51,520
whole bunch of

1331
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:54,880
um people involved as far as

1332
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,000
metaphysical and try to get it and

1333
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,079
i don't know trying to get their

1334
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,760
opinions as to what they believe is

1335
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,040
going on

1336
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,160
document it then lock it up

1337
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,079
either lock it up tear it down burn it

1338
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:09,839
down or whatever you want to do

1339
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:12,160
i mean i've got numerous there's been

1340
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:13,040
hundreds of

1341
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:14,640
people in there investigating i've got

1342
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:16,400
tons of evidence on the place i don't

1343
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:18,079
need any more evidence

1344
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,200
um it's just the the next step would be

1345
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:23,280
to try to figure out what it what it

1346
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:24,880
what's going on there you know

1347
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,440
is it a portal is it interdimensional or

1348
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:28,640
is it

1349
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:35,839
there that attack people people

1350
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:38,000
brenda the first time she let a group in

1351
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,520
there

1352
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,960
she said something it felt like

1353
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,359
something punched her in the gut so hard

1354
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,760
like she passed out in front of people

1355
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,839
and she had three ginormous scratches on

1356
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:49,200
her back where she was bleeding through

1357
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,240
her shirt

1358
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:52,400
she had to go to the hospital and her

1359
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:53,440
her liver

1360
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:55,440
or her spleen one of the two i can't

1361
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,319
remember was actually ruptured from this

1362
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,560
wow and then her husband remember

1363
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,160
earlier in the show i told you they felt

1364
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:03,839
that the thing tried to kill him twice

1365
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:04,400
whatever

1366
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,960
this guy's in good shape he's probably

1367
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,560
a little maybe our age a little bit

1368
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,000
younger um

1369
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,000
he went over there to do some work one

1370
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,079
day on the house

1371
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,119
boom kicks over has a stroke

1372
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,599
and then has a whole i mean first no

1373
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:23,440
first he has a heart attack the first

1374
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,319
time

1375
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,480
uh a mild heart attack they take him he

1376
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,000
finally he gets through that

1377
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,000
you know and everything and then later

1378
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,000
on goes back to work on the house like

1379
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:33,680
several months they locked the house up

1380
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:35,040
during this time

1381
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,800
several months and then he went back

1382
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,480
over to do something or get something

1383
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,720
boom kicks over with a stroke

1384
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:42,319
and that's he's like that's it we're

1385
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,359
done they ended up moving 20 miles away

1386
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,200
and that's when i that's when i ended up

1387
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,960
buying the place and they moved 20 miles

1388
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:50,480
away and they sold the other properties

1389
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:51,920
that are right next to it that they had

1390
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,480
too

1391
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:54,240
that's how strongly they felt that this

1392
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:55,280
thing tried and they said they would

1393
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,720
have stuff happening in their house that

1394
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,240
was next door too that they couldn't

1395
00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:00,000
explain this thing was coming over there

1396
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:00,640
now

1397
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,680
done

1398
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:05,200
so you know when people go through

1399
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,640
something like that you know if they're

1400
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:08,319
going to sell their property in their

1401
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:09,280
homes you know

1402
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:12,640
that there's some serious stuff going on

1403
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,800
wow yeah i was going to ask you if there

1404
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,720
were any neighbors there because i i was

1405
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:18,000
just wondering if they were having

1406
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:20,480
activity as well well there's another i

1407
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:22,000
found out through some of the neighbors

1408
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:23,440
there in the locals that there's another

1409
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:25,040
house down the road that has a lot of

1410
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:26,240
stuff going on too

1411
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:28,240
and then another house that's kind of

1412
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:29,520
close to that other one

1413
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,560
but it it's a little bit farther away so

1414
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:33,520
it seems like

1415
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,079
also i found out there's some native

1416
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,680
american burial mounds right in that

1417
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,720
area as well

1418
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,640
so all right they're surprised of that

1419
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:42,240
yeah yeah there's all kind of stuff

1420
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:43,680
going on native wise there

1421
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:46,240
you know and another weird thing is so

1422
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,800
during

1423
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,560
the settlers and the native american

1424
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,480
wars there with the french

1425
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,240
they finally came to a peace agreement

1426
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:54,240
and the chief at that time i forget what

1427
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,240
his name is off top of my head but

1428
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,400
the county is shaped like it's really

1429
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,240
long and weird looking well

1430
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,400
the chief went boom stuck his spear in

1431
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:03,920
the ground and said

1432
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,160
where the shadow hits that's your guys's

1433
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:08,000
area and where the light hits that's our

1434
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:08,880
area

1435
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,680
so if you think about that that was very

1436
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,720
significant

1437
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:14,560
he gave the white cellars where the

1438
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,119
shadow was the dark area

1439
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,160
and they kept the light area so he he

1440
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,680
knew what he was doing you know

1441
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:24,000
he knew what he was doing like that to

1442
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,800
this day

1443
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,880
and that's like a legend a local legend

1444
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,079
there that talks about

1445
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:30,079
how the county got its shape and

1446
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:31,359
everything

1447
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:34,720
what tribe was there i'm not sure man

1448
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:36,079
i think there was a couple of different

1449
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:37,839
ones i don't know what tribe was in that

1450
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:40,560
yeah i think it was uh i'd had to look

1451
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:40,960
at

1452
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:44,880
with indiana you know

1453
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,200
so there was a lot of a lot of activity

1454
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:49,200
in there you talked about the french and

1455
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,200
all the battles they had yeah you're

1456
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,520
right there was a lot going on there

1457
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:55,280
yep i'd have to look i think there were

1458
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,119
several tribes in that area you know

1459
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,200
i mean that whole area in ohio with all

1460
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,599
the you know the great serpent mound and

1461
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,920
the circle mounds that from there all

1462
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,040
the way through that area

1463
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,960
illinois is full of native american

1464
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,480
stuff

1465
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:11,040
so yeah i you know when i started

1466
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,720
getting involved with all this stuff in

1467
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:14,400
chicago with the wing humanoids and

1468
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,440
stuff

1469
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:17,359
uh you know we were getting sightings

1470
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:20,400
down as far down into indiana as well

1471
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,599
and uh i was just shocked all the crazy

1472
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:25,040
stuff i was hearing from people

1473
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:26,720
yeah i think it's all interrelated to

1474
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:29,599
the native american uh

1475
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:32,720
protection spirits and and curses i mean

1476
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,160
basically let's face it

1477
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,839
you know the white men take their land

1478
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:37,040
they're gonna put a curse on you that's

1479
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,240
just how it is

1480
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,000
and uh same with you know thinking about

1481
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,920
the ohio river valley chief cornstalk he

1482
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,760
put a curse oh my god well you know i

1483
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:45,520
was going to ask you about

1484
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:48,559
point pleasant you know what's your

1485
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:49,280
opinion

1486
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:52,400
with the mothman thing i

1487
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,079
you know since i've been doing these

1488
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,920
other investigations and i've been to

1489
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,680
point pleasant several times and have

1490
00:48:03,829 --> 00:47:59,520
done investigations there

1491
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:03,839
i believe uh personally that the energy

1492
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,400
is indigenous related because of all the

1493
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,400
indian activity uh and you know they had

1494
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,240
all these battles between

1495
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:12,079
other tribes and the settlers and

1496
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,280
everything it was

1497
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,760
you know it was a hot area oh yeah i

1498
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,839
mean two major rivers coming in there

1499
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:19,680
you got the ohio and the kanawha meeting

1500
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,000
right

1501
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:22,720
there um there was revolutionary war

1502
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:23,599
battles fought there

1503
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,520
was way back and

1504
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,440
of course they brought chief course talk

1505
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:30,960
there under the guise of a peace

1506
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,440
agreement and they killed him

1507
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:35,440
you know he was the head honcho for that

1508
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,319
whole area for many tribes and

1509
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,240
and they they even talk about it you

1510
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,240
know it says in the whole lord that he

1511
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:44,400
on his dying breath he cursed that whole

1512
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,760
area and

1513
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,280
look what's happened there you've got

1514
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,760
hauntings you've got major ufo sightings

1515
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:51,599
and you've got of course the mothman and

1516
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,400
other

1517
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:54,720
strange beings cited all over that area

1518
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,680
you know and

1519
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,760
i 100 agree with you i think it's

1520
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,040
indigenous related

1521
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,520
you know and if you go back to ancient

1522
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:03,760
folklore you've got the whole winged uh

1523
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:06,559
pazuzu demon who's to say them all man

1524
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,200
ain't some

1525
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:09,280
form of that i mean i don't know you

1526
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:10,480
know

1527
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,920
of

1528
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,839
evps that people have taken especially

1529
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,079
around the old west virginia ordinance

1530
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:24,960
works area down around the old tnt plant

1531
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,359
and uh i am of the opinion that

1532
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:32,000
moth man and maybe some of this other

1533
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,280
stuff that people see

1534
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:36,400
are summoned summoned by some strong

1535
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:37,200
indigenous

1536
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:40,400
spirit or as a protector or some type of

1537
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:41,520
sentinel

1538
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,319
you know that's just the sense i get

1539
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:45,839
when i um

1540
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:48,079
when i started really looking deep into

1541
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:48,960
it and in fact

1542
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:52,480
i i think a lot of these wing humanoids

1543
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:55,920
may actually be summoned beings as well

1544
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,040
now you know i had no proof of that but

1545
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,160
it just seems interesting that uh

1546
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:03,920
with all the crazy stuff that has

1547
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,640
happened historically around that area

1548
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:09,119
uh that this type of being would

1549
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,680
actually

1550
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:13,200
show up and uh you know and people don't

1551
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,160
realize

1552
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,000
there's still sightings around there i

1553
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:18,240
mean the mothman settings are

1554
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,760
continue around there oh yeah all around

1555
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:24,000
all around west virginia pea i mean

1556
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:24,880
they're

1557
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,520
it's all and it seems to always be in a

1558
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:29,200
native american hot spot for the most

1559
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:30,079
part

1560
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,599
you know i mean it really does even

1561
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,280
these hauntings you know me and weather

1562
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,200
we talk about all the time

1563
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,359
once we start delving into the land in

1564
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,040
the area sure enough almost

1565
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,040
every probably 90 something percent of

1566
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,200
the time it's native american

1567
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,760
uh native american hunting ground or

1568
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,800
sacred land

1569
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,640
way back when i mean it's something

1570
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:50,160
related to these

1571
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:53,520
uh indigenous tribes you know and uh

1572
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:55,200
you have to take a hard look at that as

1573
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:57,359
an investigator because it seems like

1574
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,280
more and more things are going up

1575
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,160
related to that aspect of it

1576
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,000
well it's like the the place where i had

1577
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:07,040
my my wing humanoid decided back in 88

1578
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,640
which is actually just down the road

1579
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:10,240
from me now

1580
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,839
uh and uh it was a main area for uh

1581
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,800
susquehanna indians they uh they

1582
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:18,559
actually did a lot of raiding around

1583
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:20,000
that area

1584
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,119
uh historically they they had actually

1585
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,440
taken a lot of settlers out of there

1586
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:27,440
then the area became an actual trading

1587
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:28,000
post

1588
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:31,520
but um yeah i think uh i think the

1589
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,480
influent the

1590
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:35,040
indigenous influence in these beings is

1591
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,400
strong

1592
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,240
and uh you know i don't know how we're

1593
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,920
ever going to figure it out but you know

1594
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,520
you know tim brenner now tim renner is

1595
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,839
part of my you know the fans of monsters

1596
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,839
40 research team too and he's just down

1597
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:47,440
the road for me

1598
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,559
and that area where he has his he does

1599
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,520
his work at

1600
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:53,839
right there along the susquehanna

1601
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,760
there's all kinds of crazy stuff showing

1602
00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:57,440
up there i mean you know

1603
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,839
i did uh one of my previous

1604
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,440
investigations lon was in

1605
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,319
wilkes-barre pa believe it or not okay i

1606
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:05,839
spent a month in this house

1607
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:07,599
and then went back three more times at

1608
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:08,960
two weeks at a time

1609
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,640
was a small house no but it's

1610
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,800
i can't really say it's pretty similar

1611
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:16,640
yeah it's related to them i'll just say

1612
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:17,040
that

1613
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,720
oh okay they deny it to this day but

1614
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,319
it's a long story you'll see it in my

1615
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:24,640
book coming out with me and earlier

1616
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,760
but i actually had a meeting this guy

1617
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,520
found out we were there turns out this

1618
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,920
guy is a high up in the native american

1619
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,599
susquehanna tribe i mean probably the

1620
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,800
highest dude up there

1621
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:36,720
his grandma was the chief of that tribe

1622
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,319
let's just put it that way

1623
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,240
and we couldn't film him we couldn't

1624
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,640
record him anything but we had a secret

1625
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,160
meeting with this guy

1626
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,240
takes us to this restaurant it's all we

1627
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:48,000
have to meet in the back and then we go

1628
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:48,559
in

1629
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,119
this huge russian dude comes out and

1630
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,119
he's just like

1631
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,520
and he lets us in he's like no cameras

1632
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:57,520
no recorders we go into this restaurant

1633
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:59,119
it's just the jeep and his assistant

1634
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:00,240
over there

1635
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,800
and we meet this guy and a very

1636
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:04,559
well-known person was with me

1637
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,960
uh we'll just say his initials are jay-z

1638
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:08,960
figure it out for yourself okay

1639
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:12,800
um when you shook this man's hand you

1640
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:14,800
felt the energy coming off of him and he

1641
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,520
told us

1642
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,000
that and he brought out all these family

1643
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:19,839
pictures and pictures of the whole area

1644
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,240
from

1645
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,880
way back i mean we're talking some of

1646
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:24,559
the first pictures ever taken in that

1647
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,040
area of his tribe and everything else

1648
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,960
and he said see this this area right

1649
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,480
here and it showed all these native

1650
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:32,800
american graves that had been desecrated

1651
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,040
he said that house you guys are in sets

1652
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:37,040
right where these graves were

1653
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,880
he said the only thing that's going to

1654
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,640
stop the activity in that house is

1655
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:42,079
you're going to have to tear that house

1656
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,760
down and you're gonna have to build a

1657
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:45,200
medicine garden

1658
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,640
and you're gonna have to have a water

1659
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,400
feature he said i'm gonna give you some

1660
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:50,160
things to do that you can slow it down

1661
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,760
but it's not gonna satisfy

1662
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:53,599
the elemental native american spirits

1663
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,119
until you do this

1664
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:58,160
because those graves were desecrated and

1665
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,960
of course the guy

1666
00:54:02,069 --> 00:54:00,319
didn't know i was working with at the

1667
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,079
time um

1668
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,319
he had bought in the house like i did

1669
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:06,079
the willow's weep house to study the

1670
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:07,040
paranormal

1671
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:08,640
he's like i can't do that i can't do

1672
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,960
that he goes well he goes you're asking

1673
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:12,319
for trouble son you know and

1674
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:15,680
i mean and this and that and um end up

1675
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:16,240
we all

1676
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:20,319
that except for me and you know me and

1677
00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:21,119
jay-z are

1678
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,839
obviously into some a couple other

1679
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,480
people but

1680
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:26,880
a lot of bad things happened to all of

1681
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:27,920
us after that

1682
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:30,559
and uh i ended up right after that

1683
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,839
investigation is when i

1684
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:33,359
ended the friendship with this guy and

1685
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:35,839
then i noticed this weird lump on my leg

1686
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:38,160
right looked like an ingrown hair like a

1687
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:39,680
pimple well

1688
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,960
after a little bit longer got a little

1689
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:43,119
bit bigger got the size of about a dime

1690
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:44,240
and it got the size about

1691
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:46,160
the nickel and i said man i'm gonna go

1692
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,839
get this checked out the doctor at the

1693
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,880
va

1694
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,880
went down there my doctor started

1695
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,319
pushing her and she starts she said let

1696
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:54,480
me go stand up here on this table

1697
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,000
started pushing on my leg and she's like

1698
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:58,240
oh my god i'm like don't be saying that

1699
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,680
you know what's the problem she goes

1700
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:00,960
i'm sending you upstairs for an

1701
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,000
ultrasound right now and i go up there

1702
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,240
you know and i turns out i have a mass

1703
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:07,920
in my leg bigger than a softball

1704
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:10,240
came out of nowhere right after that

1705
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:11,520
investigation

1706
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:15,040
wow um so i have within two weeks i'm in

1707
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:16,559
surgery and they pull this thing out i

1708
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,920
said i want pictures of that take

1709
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,880
pictures of it

1710
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,400
so they took pictures of the thing was

1711
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,640
like this big like a softball man

1712
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:24,240
so they sent it off for testing of

1713
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:26,319
course and the doctor's like man

1714
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,920
i met him he's like scratching his head

1715
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:29,119
as he goes this is one of the weirdest

1716
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,839
things i ever see

1717
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:31,359
number one for the location it's in

1718
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,280
number two it's not

1719
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,359
it has cancer in it but it's not cancer

1720
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,720
it doesn't make any sense

1721
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:38,640
and they even had a weird instead of a

1722
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:42,789
i'm trying to think of what they were

1723
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:45,040
okay it's not a there's a they call it a

1724
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,760
scar

1725
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,200
but there's another name for regular

1726
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,200
cancer um so no

1727
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:50,799
like sonoma or something what's that

1728
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:53,839
other one there's this one and now

1729
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,799
sarcoma yeah this was a scar noma they

1730
00:56:02,390 --> 00:55:58,799
called it something totally different

1731
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:02,400
and he's like it's it's very bizarre and

1732
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:04,799
um and at that time i was having these

1733
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,400
dreams every night that these black i

1734
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,160
was in this black cloud was around me

1735
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,760
and these arms were coming out

1736
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:12,079
trying to grab me these black arms and

1737
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:13,119
every night they would get a little

1738
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,680
closer

1739
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:15,040
and then one night they finally grabbed

1740
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,640
a hold of my arm and i went like that

1741
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:18,240
this is all in my dream right

1742
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,680
i woke up sweating profusely and my

1743
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:23,040
shirt had a little rip and i had a

1744
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,319
scratch on my arm

1745
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:26,240
that's what i knew i got an attachment

1746
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,680
from this [\h__\h] place

1747
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:30,000
i went and got voiced by a catholic

1748
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:36,069
and at that time man i was going through

1749
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:37,520
a really

1750
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,640
really bad divorce and i had financial

1751
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,680
difficulties like

1752
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,280
i almost went totally broke all this

1753
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:45,280
stuff was going on as soon as i did that

1754
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:45,920
cleansing

1755
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:48,960
everything turned around overnight so

1756
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,599
i knew that i'd carry home something

1757
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:53,520
from that investigation

1758
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:56,240
and contacted that that that native

1759
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:56,720
american

1760
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,720
he said i'm going to give you a name and

1761
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,720
a number you call this man and

1762
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:03,359
he's a shaman he will help you and he's

1763
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:05,839
one of the ones that i had to do that

1764
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,000
and i also had to do some stuff on me

1765
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:09,599
because he's a shaman too

1766
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,640
so this stuff is dangerous it can

1767
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:14,480
and will affect you let me tell you i've

1768
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,119
experienced it and it's not fun

1769
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,799
and i went through i had to go through

1770
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:20,880
like three major surgeries and i

1771
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:23,119
i can't say it's paranormal 100 because

1772
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:24,640
i can't prove it but it's so

1773
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,760
coincidental

1774
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,200
what's the chance is this thing comes

1775
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:29,040
out of nowhere right after this crazy

1776
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,160
investigation

1777
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,640
npa in a native american site sacred

1778
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,160
native american site

1779
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:36,160
and these things are pissed let me tell

1780
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:37,200
you

1781
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:43,200
that whole area up there wilkes-barre

1782
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:46,160
scranton i have had some crazy

1783
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:48,559
crazy incidents reported me from up

1784
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,200
there

1785
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:51,520
you know that's a big upgrade canine

1786
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,799
dogman area now

1787
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:55,440
i mean we have been getting a lot of

1788
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:56,880
sightings around there's some

1789
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,520
big mountains in that area man and yeah

1790
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:01,359
volcanoes up there and

1791
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,799
let me tell you something if you do a

1792
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:04,720
little research there's a ton

1793
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:07,359
of satanic groups in that area a ton of

1794
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,079
them

1795
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:10,480
yes and there's newspaper articles uh

1796
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,359
there's

1797
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:14,160
satanic murders up in there and and you

1798
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,880
can look it up

1799
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,880
there's a whole bunch of covens up there

1800
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,920
i mean it's there

1801
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,599
so that that's kind of when you're

1802
00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:21,119
talking about these uh

1803
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:22,799
dogman and these black dog type

1804
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,400
sightings um you know that

1805
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,160
that can run right along with that type

1806
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:28,720
of practice

1807
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,440
yeah we've yeah in recent years we have

1808
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:33,280
been getting a lot of sightings of these

1809
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:36,480
upright canines in that area uh

1810
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,160
and of course you talk about the poke

1811
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:39,680
and those we have getting there

1812
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:43,599
too uh it is it's bizarre

1813
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,400
well back when me and weatherly wrote

1814
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,640
that book on this what was coming out

1815
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:51,599
yeah it that that little town wilkes bar

1816
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:53,200
is not that big it's a good sized city

1817
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:54,240
but it's right

1818
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,880
but it happens river is a higher moon

1819
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:58,480
rate than new york city

1820
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,119
mind you oh that doesn't surprise me

1821
00:59:05,109 --> 00:59:03,040
that native american told us that that

1822
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:05,119
used to be that tribe sacred medicine

1823
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,319
garden area that whole

1824
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:08,079
area because they had beautiful springs

1825
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,359
there they grew all their medicines

1826
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,040
there and then the whites came in

1827
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:13,920
huge battles lots died there too and

1828
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:14,799
boom

1829
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:18,319
now look what's going on wow

1830
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:22,079
you know um during during agnes

1831
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:25,520
uh tropical storm agnes back in 72

1832
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:29,040
that wilkes-barre area really got nailed

1833
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:33,119
i mean yeah oh it was terrible

1834
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:35,359
i mean the river was tearing up

1835
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,079
cemeteries it was that bad you know

1836
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:40,319
the whole way you know but wilkes i know

1837
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:41,440
wilkesboro got hit

1838
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,799
bad and i have talked to several people

1839
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:47,200
and they tell me things just not have

1840
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:50,079
have not gotten better since the floods

1841
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,119
up there

1842
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,359
uh i don't know if it brought something

1843
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,359
out or did something but

1844
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:57,040
i think it's one of the places like we

1845
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:58,720
talked about it yeah

1846
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:01,920
i really do interesting well i tell you

1847
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:02,559
dave

1848
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:05,599
you know uh is there anything else you

1849
01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:06,160
want to

1850
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:08,559
tell us about your website or whatever

1851
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:09,599
and

1852
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,599
um scare network dot tv guys that's

1853
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:13,440
gonna be a fun time

1854
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:14,799
going to get a lot of other

1855
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:16,640
investigators involved with that as time

1856
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:19,119
goes on a lot of content on there and um

1857
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:20,960
it's all going to be the real you know

1858
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:23,200
it's it's no tv production companies

1859
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,160
involved

1860
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:26,559
and uh what we do paranormally on there

1861
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,599
is it should open your eyes

1862
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,680
well you get that going i'm gonna have

1863
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:33,680
you come back on here and we'll uh help

1864
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,119
promote it for you okay

1865
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:37,599
cool man i appreciate it will you take

1866
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,920
care and have a good weekend and i'll be

1867
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:41,200
talking to you soon

1868
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:42,880
you too lon take care thanks for having

1869
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:46,400
me okay you take care now

1870
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,400
now if you have an unexplained encounter

1871
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:50,400
sighting feel free to contact me through

1872
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:52,240
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1873
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:53,839
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1874
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1875
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1876
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1877
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1878
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,160
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1879
01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:05,920
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1880
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:09,119
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1881
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:11,280
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1882
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:12,319
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1883
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:15,359
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1884
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:15,760
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1885
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:19,760
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1886
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:22,640
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1887
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:24,000
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1888
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:26,000
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1889
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:27,040
hear that and

1890
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,359
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1891
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:31,200
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1892
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:34,480
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1893
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,920
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1894
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:38,000
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1895
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,680
coming on this evening i want to thank

1896
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,599
you for listening to the show

1897
01:01:44,829 --> 01:01:43,680
stay healthy have a safe and enjoyable